was a stigma -- as public attached a stigma that they had taken this public money, which is very interesting to me. it may have helped rocco, when michigan and ohio, but it didn't help gm. >> gm is giving the stock at a bargain. the ipo is $10 more per share. the one that's just terrible. >> i think that the government should get out of this quickly as possible. obviously you want to do it in an orderly fashion. the were never going to happen again. who president of the government actually taking over, taking a controlling share, calling shots, who is going to be the ceo and stuff like that. the sooner we get past that, the better. gerri: it has to be a new day. dan and neck, thank you both for coming on today. great conversation. if you are fired up about this, drop me an e-mail at email@example.com.